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Star Wars Fanatic ◊ 2007-01-01 16:10	Another hateful car that Clarkson destroys, principly because of its looks, is this Ford Scorpio which is used in an amusing game of jousting, with a Trumph TR7. After 2 attempts, the 2 cars collide in an explosive head-on collision. -- Last edit: 2007-01-01 16:38:36
G-MANN ◊ 2007-01-01 17:30	The vehicle details for N508 CKO are: Date of Liability 03 06 2005 Date of First Registration 01 05 1996 Year of Manufacture 1996 Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1998CC CO2 Emissions Not Available Fuel Type Petrol Export Marker Not Applicable Vehicle Status Unlicensed Vehicle Colour BLACK Manufacturer FORD Model SCORPIO ULTIMA 16V AUTO Body type 4 DOOR SALOON Colour BLACK Fuel type PETROL Date manufactured 30 December 1996
CarChasesFanatic ◊ 2007-01-01 20:02	I love the desing of this car
G-MANN ◊ 2007-01-02 01:42	You think this is a well desinged car?
Neptune ◊ 2007-01-02 01:50	The headlamp and grille design give the car the appearance that something has scared or startled it.
G-MANN ◊ 2007-01-02 01:53	Clarkson once said "an undistinguished downmarket executive car [the old Granada] had been turned into something resembling an extra from Finding Nemo after a session under the Dagenham scapel" Of course this car was released 10 years before that film came out.
Star Wars Fanatic ◊ 2007-01-02 13:11	When was that said?
G-MANN ◊ 2007-01-02 14:10	Some old Top Gear magazine.
lastinpurple ◊ 2007-01-20 13:44	It's curious that this car's licence plate ressembles A LOT to the Top Gear Scorpio used on the Remote Control Car Challenge. (This licence plate is N508CKO and Top Gear's is N508CNO) Casual? I think not.
Kowalski ◊ 2007-09-14 22:19	carchasesfanatic wrote I love the desing of this car Go check your eyes then.
ecclefechan ◊ 2007-12-01 02:46	I've always liked these Scorpios. Never understood the critical backlash against them. It's odd, because I had one for a couple of years and nobody reacted with disgust when they saw it, and a good few people actually said they really liked it. I don't understand what's supposed to be ugly about the front. It's quite unique and original, and the rest of the design is a conventional saloon car. One of the few things I have to disagree with Jeremy Clarkson on. The "jousting" was pretty weak also and the final crash was unimpressive and boring. -- Last edit: 2007-12-01 02:47:38
Bravada ◊ 2007-12-01 15:50	I believe they are sexy, whatever Kowalski would say.
Ingo ◊ 2007-12-01 19:16	In Germany it's called "the fat carp on the street". The estate-version "Turnier" was sold a bit better, because it hasn't the ugly back. The back is looking "too American style", annother reason, which has caused the disapproval on the German market. And it was the most unreliable car of its class. The one and only advantage of that car: it's very very cheap to buy.
ecclefechan ◊ 2007-12-01 20:47	I've always liked that sort of "American style". Never heard of any major reliability issues for them here in the UK, Parkers Price Guide actually rates reliability as one of it's plus points. I also like the 96-2000 Ford Taurus and the 91-97 Chevrolet Caprice, so some might say that I have bad taste. Cars I hate are Scion XB/Toyota BB, the new European Honda Civic, Nissan Micra K12 and just about any Saturn.
Skid ◊ 2007-12-01 20:56	I don't find this car attractive or unattractive...it's just there.
antp ◊ 2007-12-01 23:18	Ingo wrote The one and only advantage of that car: it's very very cheap to buy. What's funny is that even the scale model of it can be found for quite cheap, despite the fact that it was made by Minichamps, whose models are usually not cheap.
Bravada ◊ 2007-12-02 09:21	Actually, the "American-style" rear end is why the car is so appealing! I have also never heard of any major reliability problems compared to other executives, what I've heard is that the Scorpio is much more reliable than contemporary Omegas, not to mention the usual culprit, the Passat.
Ingo ◊ 2007-12-02 15:30	The ADAC-statistics about all break-downs, they had made the service for in Germany, says over all years, that the Scorpio was always the most unreliable car in the executive-class, worse than the Omega, worse than the Renault Laguna and the Citroen XM. I didn't have collected the ADAC-magazines, but I definetely know, that the distance between Scorpio and the following cars was always big. As I know for one or two years it belonged to the most unreliable cars of all classes, together with the Chrysler Voyager, the Lada, the Fiat Brava and the Kia Carnival. -- Last edit: 2007-12-02 15:30:52
Ingo ◊ 2007-12-02 15:38	O.k., a statistics is not always the one and only truth. I'm driving the second worst car after the Scorpio (says the ADAC-statistics), an Opel Omega, in the worst version -for the statistics- (2.0 DTI) and from the worst year (1999) - one single breakdown on 220 000 km, that's it. -- Last edit: 2007-12-02 15:39:41
antp ◊ 2007-12-02 16:20	There are always exceptions. Even if 99,99% of the cars of a model break down, there will be one lucky guy who has the one which does not break down
Bravada ◊ 2007-12-02 16:24	ADAC is hardly representative. I believe it used to be composed by counting the number of times ADAC was called to a given model - I guess put against the number registered. I recall e.g. BMW numbers were always inflated because they provided their own assistance. I'd rather go by Dekra or TUV for Germany, and Warranty Direct for the UK.
Bravada ◊ 2007-12-02 16:33	Ingo wrote As I know for one or two years it belonged to the most unreliable cars of all classes, together with the Chrysler Voyager, the Lada, the Fiat Brava and the Kia Carnival. Another reason not to completely trust ADAC - Bravas are fairly reliable. They were actually the most reliable car in the first Dekra they were in.
G-MANN ◊ 2007-12-02 17:37	I see more pre-facelift Omegas still around than Scorpios, doesn't that tell you something? And with that "American rear", it's like they tried to emulate the style of an American car but kind of got it wrong. The US Crown Victoria is much better looking car IMO, although it's a bit too big for Europe. -- Last edit: 2007-12-02 17:38:56
Ingo ◊ 2007-12-02 17:56	Yes, the shape of the pre-facelift Omega (like mine) is a bit America-like, too. It looks a bit like a shrinked Chevrolet Caprice. But it's not so extreme like the Scorpio.
G-MANN ◊ 2007-12-02 18:49	I think the Omega's a lot easier on the eyes than a Scorpio. Although my dad told me that it's the most problematic car he's ever had, it's not been a total nightmare but he's had to spend quite a bit of money on it in the last few years. -- Last edit: 2007-12-02 18:50:22
Bravada ◊ 2007-12-02 20:52	G-MANN wrote I see more pre-facelift Omegas still around than Scorpios, doesn't that tell you something? And with that "American rear", it's like they tried to emulate the style of an American car but kind of got it wrong. The US Crown Victoria is much better looking car IMO, although it's a bit too big for Europe. Excuse me? First of all, Omega outsold Scorpio 4:1 IIRC (which is why it died so much earlier) I also believe the Scorpio has its unique style - you may call it "American", but I believe the Omega is no less "American". It is just a good-looking modern (for its times) executive sedan with a stance appropriate for the car of this class. As concerns the Crown Victoria, it is a rather skillful update of a rather ugly (originally, I am speaking of the beginnings of the Panther platform) car a few times past its prime, but I don't think it is gorgeous. Certain generations of the GM had a certain flair and the 1997 (or was it 1998?) Town Car is irresistible, but America's taxicab? Two different cars with Scorpio anyway, I'd compare it to the Taurus rather...
G-MANN ◊ 2007-12-02 20:59	The Omega outsold the Scorpio probably because the Scorpio's looks turned people away. I certainly don't think the Crown Vic is "gorgeous", but it's OK-looking whereas Scorpio looks too odd. "It is just a good-looking modern (for its times) executive sedan with a stance appropriate for the car of this class." Yes, the Omega is, but not the frog-faced Scorpio. I've said my piece. -- Last edit: 2007-12-02 21:00:54
CarChasesFanatic ◊ 2007-12-03 13:26	ecclefechan wrote I've always liked these Scorpios. Never understood the critical backlash against them. It's odd, because I had one for a couple of years and nobody reacted with disgust when they saw it, and a good few people actually said they really liked it. I don't understand what's supposed to be ugly about the front. It's quite unique and original, and the rest of the design is a conventional saloon car. One of the few things I have to disagree with Jeremy Clarkson on. The "jousting" was pretty weak also and the final crash was unimpressive and boring. At last someone agreing with me!! Anyway, i have to be honest and admit that its me who is the rare here and not the rest, this car had obviously bad sales and people didnt like it but honestly, i do like it because it is different, it reminds me of that Infiniti with a similar rear end. Another funny evidence that shows that this car was a complete dissapointmen is what Antoine points out, the MINICHAMPS 1:43 version of it is not wanted by people either
CarChasesFanatic ◊ 2007-12-03 13:31	G-MANN wrote I think the Omega's a lot easier on the eyes than a Scorpio. Although my dad told me that it's the most problematic car he's ever had, it's not been a total nightmare but he's had to spend quite a bit of money on it in the last few years. Not a reason G-MANN, you know that depends on each unit, your dad probably has had nightmares with it but probably someone who bought it at the same time as your father is so happy of having it becuase hes never had a proper breakdown with it.
CarChasesFanatic ◊ 2007-12-03 13:33	Kowalski wrote Go check your eyes then. Oh trust me i dont have to check my eyes, perhaps you have to be more open minded
Bravada ◊ 2007-12-03 13:45	Actually, initial sales of the "bug-eyed" Scorpio were strong and Ford was very optimistic about it, only when the media backlash started to roll out and the car got a lot of negative PR, sales started to slump. This has a lot to do with the death of the non-premium executive car at that time in Europe too, but I still remember that the Scorpio was initially regarded as a success (for the first 1 year or so).
G-MANN ◊ 2007-12-03 14:15	carchasesfanatic wrote Not a reason G-MANN, you know that depends on each unit Well you do realise that certain engine designs have often developed common problems? Certain European car companies have had problems with certain engines.
CarChasesFanatic ◊ 2007-12-03 14:16	Yes but appart from that it also depends on each unit.
antp ◊ 2007-12-03 17:43	carchasesfanatic wrote it reminds me of that Infiniti with a similar rear end. /vehicle_34830-Infiniti-J30-1993.html Garco & I took it for a Scorpio -- Last edit: 2007-12-03 17:44:03
CarChasesFanatic ◊ 2007-12-03 20:41	Yes because it is similar
Bravada ◊ 2007-12-03 20:55	The Leopard is also a looker, in its own perverse way.
movie star ◊ 2008-04-26 18:03	Kowalski wrote Go check your eyes then. Is this comment supposed to be funny? If you don't like this car, it's ok but don't make bad jokes!
movie star ◊ 2008-04-26 18:08	The Scorpio is a pretty good car. You may happen not to like its outside (although I like it ), but it is a luxury sedan and quite reliable.
tali ◊ 2008-04-26 18:09	Along with the Fiat Multipla one of the ugliest cars ever made
ggj ◊ 2008-04-26 20:27	Someone in my neighbourhood has a black 2.9 24V with nice 5-spoke rims on it which I think looks really good! It's got these rims: http://pic.autoscout24.net/images-big/938/465/0132465938001.jpg http://pic.autoscout24.net/images-big/938/465/0132465938002.jpg -- Last edit: 2008-04-26 20:45:46
movie star ◊ 2008-04-26 21:33	I totally agree it looks awesome with these rims :] -- Last edit: 2008-04-30 20:08:33

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