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1976 Simca 1307 S [C6]

1976 Simca 1307 [C6] in Xiong zhong, Movie, 1982 IMDB

Class: Cars, Hatchback — Model origin: FR

1976 Simca 1307 S [C6]

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HWJOE US

2015-12-14 19:11

Which Simca, the possible brown 1308/1309 in the foreground or the light yellow 1300/1500 2 cars back?

dsl SX

2015-12-14 19:27

Yellow is 1100.

eLMeR MH

2015-12-15 02:12

The models of this Simca-Chrysler car line were mainly the 1976-79 1307 and 1308. The (really scarce) 9 CV 1309 with the automatic gearbox appeared in 1979 only. And the three of them were replaced in 1980 by the almost clone Talbot-Simca 1510...

This one seems to have the light-grey bumper of a 130x. The molding on the door and the head rests would then indicate a 1308 GT (fr) or a 1309 SX (fr). The only external clues to tell one over the other are apparently the headlamp and hatchback window wipers of the 1309 SX. Is there a better shot of this car?
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Edit:
Let's forget about the headlamp and hatchback window wipers: some
1308 GT apparently also had these accessories.

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Weasel1984 PL

2015-12-15 16:15

Side modling wasn't standard in 1308 GT, but every 1308 GT had headlamps wipers. 1309 SX had different wheels in standard, than the car here. I would not exclude Talbot 1510 completly - his trousers can hide a real shape of the bumper (sounds stupid, I know).

Rear wiper was extra option since 1978.
Front headrests were extra option since 1976, this way it can be 1307 S too (but not 1307 GLS by the windows trim).

marcusdragonma BR

2015-12-15 17:02

eLMeR wrote Is there a better shot of this car?

Unfortunately not, bro. The only thing I could get is a bit of the headlamp, if it helps.
[Image: vlcsnap-2015-12-15-13h21m33s56.jpg] [Image: vlcsnap-2015-12-15-13h21m49s193.jpg]

Weasel1984 PL

2015-12-15 18:54

Ok, so the lowest and oldest version, which could be modified this way (headrests, side strips) is 1307 S.

dsl SX

2015-12-15 19:06

If this had been RHD and UK Alpine, I'd have been happy with S as trim level.

eLMeR MH

2015-12-15 23:45

Thanks for the extra pictures, marcudragonma.

Weasel1984 wrote [...] but every 1308 GT had headlamps wipers. [...]

I have no picture/brochure/article to infirm it (and it's not my intention to do it), but almost 2 years of searches for the IMCDb identifications led me to be very careful with this kind of statement ;)

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Weasel1984 PL

2015-12-16 20:52

Headlamps wipers were 1308 GT characteristic standard feature (till the introduction of 1309 SX which, as you wrote, also had them in standard trim), this is knowledge from brochures and articles. Anyway to be sure and exact, I did check one more time what I have about these cars - including datas copied once from the great at the very beginning of century, but defunct since long time website "1307-1308.org". In one table we could read there that in 1978 (and ONLY in 1978 MY) headlamps wipers were not standard, but optional in 1308 GT. However, possible that it was typo - it was not official source. In all other years - 1976-77 and 1979 - these wipers were in every 1308 GT.

P.S. these wipers were extra option in all trim levels, but still 1308 GT and 1309 SX are easy to recognize by the grille.

Ingo DE

2015-12-16 20:59

marcusdragonma wrote [Image: vlcsnap-2015-12-15-13h21m49s193.jpg]


Situation: two well known IMCDb-ists discussing the topic "It's a dsl-car!" - "No, it's a Weasel-car!"

Weasel1984 PL

2015-12-16 21:07

Where two are fighting the third wins. So you could finally see that Vatican Mazda has in fact French plates. Normal or diplomatic?

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eLMeR MH

2015-12-17 00:17

@ Weasel1984:
I don't question what you say, just what I (think I) know ;)
I read DW 93 in silver letters/numbers on a black plate, which means a standard late 1976 plate from the Neuf Trois ("Nine three", a.k.a. Seine-Saint-Denis department). A diplomatic plate of these years would have had orange or white letters/numbers on a green background (fr). For the record, the 2009+ French system didn't modify the specs for the diplomatic plates.

The V could be a souvenir from a former trip in Vatican, as it was (still is?) a common habit to have stickers from the different countries the driver and her/his family visited. And I'm sure it was/is not just a French habit :)
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Ingo DE

2015-12-17 14:48

eLMeR wrote ...
The V could be a souvenir from a former trip in Vatican, as it was (still is?) a common habit to have stickers from the different countries the driver and her/his family visited. And I'm sure it was/is not just a French habit :)
...

But it's illegal, although since the Euro-plates with the blue bar and the country-letters left on these country-ovals aren't required any more, when you travel abroad (only for vehicles with older pre-Euro-plates). If the cops catch you, they charge you a fine (assumed they know the laws and rules. Which is not self-evident [:kiki])

eLMeR MH

2015-12-17 18:35

ingo wrote
But it's illegal, although since the Euro-plates with the blue bar and the country-letters left on these country-ovals aren't required any more, when you travel abroad (only for vehicles with older pre-Euro-plates). If the cops catch you, they charge you a fine

I don't know if that is/was illegal in France. If so, it must then be/have been just a French "sport", as I remember having seen a lot of cars "decorated" this way. I'll try to look at it in the streets to see if it's still done.

ingo wrote (assumed they know the laws and rules. Which is not self-evident)

I had to remind (teach?) the accurate laws to cops several times, with my always-near-classic cars (polite way to say that I always have old clunkers :D ). They apparently have difficulties to understand that 20+ years old cars are not affected by some ongoing technical regulations :)

-- Last edit: 2015-12-17 18:36:51

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