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1941 Ford C11 AS De Luxe Station Wagon 'Woodie'

1941 Ford C11 AS in Harry Birrell Presents Films of Love and War, Documentary, 2019 IMDB

Class: Cars, Wagon — Model origin: US — Built in: CA — Made for: GB

1941 Ford C11 AS De Luxe Station Wagon 'Woodie'

Pos: 00:07:18 [*] Background vehicle

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dsl SX

2020-03-21 02:51

London, 1938.

s13a LT

2020-03-22 00:33

Is the footage really from 1938? The woodie (if a Ford, for example) looks a little bit younger than that, at least 1941+ by those front and rear fenders, but I could be wrong.

For a comparison

1940+ Ford woodie:
Link to "cdn1.mecum.com"

1941+ Ford woodie:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Q0CS5w6y6kA/maxresdefault.jpg

There could be other woodie's of course, not just Ford, but it doesn't seem to have 1938 elements here. Headlights, fenders look more modern, I think.

dsl SX

2020-03-22 01:03

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Commentary says 1938 when Harry went to London to train as a surveyor, so might stretch into early/mid 1939. If it's his footage (and not a sly insertion from somewhere else), it can't be 1940-47 because he was away from UK. Also there's no WW2 blackout features in these clips such as headlight blinds or painted white edges to bodywork, so it's peace-time.

johnfromstaffs EN

2020-03-22 08:46

I have looked at all of the pictures from this “set” and although the subject vehicle looks anachronistic for a pre-war scene, can find no other vehicle that cannot have been around in say 1942. Agreed there are no wartime white markings or headlamp masks to be seen, and my usual rule of thumb to date such a scene, the buses, are all 1939 or earlier types.

Sunbar UK

2020-03-23 13:35

So the wartime white markings added to vehicles were implemented well within ten days of the 1st September 1939 regulations, according to the CM archive. Trials with headlamp shields were carried out in February 1938 so more than a year for manufacture of the shields themselves.

The taxi turning right in the centre of the picture is, a I think, 1935 Morris-Commercial G2 Junior Taxi.

The only thing of note I think is the white painted upright at the Underground subway entrance, so immediately before September 1939?

Sunbar UK

2020-03-23 20:21

1941 Ford Woody C11AS for the US military 'Not the heavy version but the standard militarised version'
http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23543

White painted bumpers front and rear plus white running boards, painted hub-caps, wooden areas and with no chrome, or front side lights on top of front wings.

Picture post-war probably 1947? "In 1947 he (Harry) made it home..."

Edit: "235 made for an order from the British army" Link to "www.flickr.com"

-- Last edit: 2020-03-23 21:00:13

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