Advertising Last completed movie pages 1933 Bentley Marker-Jackson Special “Mother Gun” [ST3001] Comments about this vehicle| Author | Message |
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◊ 2022-05-01 21:04 |
![[Image: race37i005903.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/26849/race37i005903.jpg) |
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◊ 2022-05-01 21:45 |
Reversed footage .gif ";)") |
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◊ 2022-05-03 14:10 |
I suspect this of being the Barnato Hassan Special. http://www.vintagebentleys.org/specials/0012.php |
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◊ 2022-05-03 14:53 |
From linked articles and archive photos, first race was 1934 Brooklands 500 Miles with 6½ Litre, became 8-Litre for 1935. If captions on that page are correct (I got confused on first look) it had #41 in both 1934 and 1935. But #37 in 1934 was Marker's 6½ Litre Bentley Special. |
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◊ 2022-05-03 16:55 |
As this page, but without a racing number. Are both pages same car??? |
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◊ 2022-05-03 16:58 |
There is a problem, to do with the exhaust swapping sides. It depends on the year in which the car was photographed. You may be right, but… http://www.vintagebentleys.org/specials/0012.php http://www.vintagebentleys.org/specials/0004.php This, shows exhaust on the opposite side and is quoted as being “Old Mother Gun” ie before first rebuild. https://pics.imcdb.org/26849/bent.jpg -- Last edit: 2023-04-06 23:24:03 (dsl) |
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◊ 2022-05-03 17:39 |
I'm struggling while juggling the pics .... Issues for me are: - the racing number - 37 in 1934 was the Marker-Jackson, with 41 being the Barnato-Hassan as this grid photo if caption is solid. 1935 is now irrelevant as race was 3 months after film release - the exhaust - #41 in that grid photo did not have one visible. Granted also that other Marker-Jackson pics (different events?) do not have the exhaust as shown, but #37 in 1934 clearly did - the Marker-Jackson #37 has visibly offset driving position and a small screen on top of a scuttle bulge, as apparent here. #41 is different and flatter bonnet/scuttle. Hence why I'm thinking we've got 2 pages for the Marker-Jackson, with and without #37. Or if we've got 2 different cars, I can't marry up the second car to the grid pic of #41, which may mean we haven't got the Barnato Hassan Special at all in any captures?? My brain hurts now, so I'm going to lie down in a quiet room and think serene thoughts. |
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◊ 2022-05-03 18:18 |
I need to do some stuff like cooking dinner, feeding dogs etc. I’ll look further. |
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◊ 2022-05-03 21:05 |
The car in the subject picture clearly has the exhaust on the nearside and therefore cannot be the Barnato Hassan, mea culpa. It would, therefore, appear to be the Marker-Jackson in 4 1/2 litre incarnation and I have got it wrong. -- Last edit: 2022-05-03 21:07:24 |
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◊ 2022-05-03 21:10 |
I'm trying to follow this but am confused (you don't say..). Ignoring any outside link pics these two cars as uploaded from this film certainly have the exhaust on the same side. Haven't they? Main pic here and all pics of this /vehicle_1642628-Bentley-Marker-Jackson-Special-ST3001)-1933.html are not flipped. Unless exhaust placing isn't the only problem. (edit) ^Right! -- Last edit: 2022-05-03 21:12:19 |
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◊ 2022-05-03 21:17 |
Can I suggest that this image is incorporated into the Marker-Jackson entry. |
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◊ 2022-05-03 22:56 |
Have changed the title for now. Might do a full merge later when I've got time to work out which comments are worth moving, as I think some of them are still useful. We've got [ST3001] in original form here. |
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◊ 2022-05-03 23:03 |
Hmmm. I wonder if it really is? See second paragraph “at that time….” It does, however, appear in the current BDC members list under Chassis#ST3001, but one does speculate about how much of the original car is really still extant. “(Old) Mother Gun(s) The first 4½ litre Bentley - chassis No. ST3001 - Reg. No. YH3196 was completed in time for the 1927 Le- Mans 24 hr race, to be entered with two 3 litre team cars. The 4½ was eliminated in the famous White House Corner crash. For 1928 ST3001 was very much the 3rd car entry for Le Mans, with the main team effort expended on the two new 4½ litre cars. However, the two new cars faltered and the old (1 year!) car ran out the winner. At this event the car became known affectionately within the team as Old Mother Gun. The car would be entered again as a team entry for the 1929 Le Mans, finishing in second place. By 1933 Old Mother Gun (chassis ST3001) was privately owned by Richard Marker. From 1933 to 1936 the car would be extensively modified for racing at Brooklands. Modification included a new 2 seater body and eventually a 6.5 litre engine. In 1936 a new car was constructed by Robin Jackson utilising a completely new chassis and various parts from Old Mother Gun as it was at the time, including the 6.5 litre engine. At that time chassis ST3001 was discarded. The new car, with the chassis number RRJ1 would race at Brooklands during the 30s, and remains actively campaigned today. This car is know as 'Mother Gun' the Old having seemingly been dropped with the passage of time. Although essentially a Bentley Special, this famous car, also referred to as the Marker Jackson Special, is an evolution of Old Mother Gun.” Source: Bryan Househam Posted: Nov 20, 2007 -- Last edit: 2022-05-04 09:01:56 |
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◊ 2022-05-04 08:48 |
RIP Tony Brooks. Saw him racing when I was growing up, second only behind Moss for a time. |
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