Class: Cars, Convertible — Model origin:
Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase
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◊ 2009-11-06 13:36 |
Mike Brady's first car, seen only in the first episode. |
◊ 2009-11-06 14:25 |
Incidentally this car is the center of what's widely <b.considered> one of the show's most notorious bloopers. Tiger the dog is being kept in the car but hits a power window switch and escapes, disrupting the wedding. Problem is, there's a window crank clearly visibile as the dog is supposedly hitting a switch! -- Last edit: 2009-11-08 04:45:13 |
◊ 2009-11-06 15:00 |
Would the power windows even work with the ignition switch off? |
◊ 2009-11-06 15:42 |
I'm pretty sure they wouldn't, which is another mistake. :-) |
◊ 2009-11-06 15:55 |
When power windows first started becoming popular (60s) some did work when the car was off. It wasn't until some stupid kids rolled windows up on their necks that they were controlled by the ignition as a safety feature. |
◊ 2009-11-06 16:01 |
If it was your child that died because of this you wouldn't be calling them stupid kids |
◊ 2009-11-06 16:12 |
I know what you say is true, Drujon, but I thought by 1968 they would have changed to ignition-only activation. (It was sometime between 1964 and 1971 because our 1964 Cadillac windows would roll up without the ignition being turned on but those on our 1971 Ford LTD would not.) Is there anyone here with direct experience with a 1968 model car that could comment? -- Last edit: 2009-11-07 15:21:15 |
◊ 2009-11-06 16:22 |
When I was growing up, one of our neighbors had a '66 Buick Riviera with power windows and IIRC they would *not* roll up unless the ignition switch was at least turned to "accessory." |
◊ 2009-11-07 05:41 |
It's not actually a goof anyway. The crank in the picture is clearly for the vent window based on it's placement, the main window could very well be power as the switch for it would be right where the dog's paw is located. Also, "retained power" is a luxury feature found on many cars from the 70s, 80s, 90s, and today as well. Some Lincolns had them in the 80s, and I know some new cars that have it as well. -- Last edit: 2009-11-07 05:44:12 |
◊ 2009-11-07 06:36 |
Good points, Taxiguy. Retained power lasts until a door is open or until a specified amount of time has expired such as 5 or 10 minutes. My '05 Mk V Jetta has it. So does the '08 Ram at my job I drive. What the parameters Dodge used back then with their retained power feature, I don't know. |
◊ 2009-11-07 19:52 |
When Nick at Nite (US cable TV network) reran this show in the 1990s, they actually did a promo about how this was a goof...but the '68 Polara 500 did indeed have power windows, so if that really is a vent crank, then I guess the joke was on Nick at Nite! (and me for believing them...oh well.) -- Last edit: 2009-11-07 19:53:21 |
◊ 2009-11-08 01:00 |
Here's what that door panel looks like - you can clearly see both window cranks as well as the door handle, and no - a 1968 Polara wouldn't work with the ignition off, and nothing even close to that era had any sort of retained power settings for accessories. |
◊ 2009-11-08 04:46 |
Then the crank next to Tiger's paw is most definitely a vent window crank, not the main window handle. This is widely considered to be a goof in the "Brady Bunch" fan community and our clearing that up may have quite an effect there! |
◊ 2009-11-11 01:52 |
As long as we're discussing arcane power window details, let me chime in. I don't know the exact years, but during the 60s and into the 70s, Cadillac had an early version of "retained power" for the windows. If the window lock switch on the driver's armrest was held in the opposite position, the windows could be operated with the ignition off. It was spring loaded as a safety feature, so it could not be left in the "on" position. I owned a 1969 Sedan de Ville, so I was familiar with this feature. I do not remember any other GM car even having a window lock switch, let alone this emergency feature, as they called it. |
◊ 2009-11-26 03:24 |
Good point about the emergency setting - I believe my '65 DeVille had that as well. |
◊ 2013-12-16 04:04 |
My '73 Chrysler windows are powered all the time. You don't need the key to put them up or down. It's possible a previous owner changed the wiring to make it that way I suppose, but I kinda doubt it. |
◊ 2017-02-23 19:29 |
You could also have the switches rewired so they'd work with the ignition off as well. |
◊ 2020-08-17 07:22 |
I don’t know about whether or not the power windows would work without the ignition switch being turned on...but after looking up & viewing pictures of 1968 Dodge Polara 500 Convertibles, I have to say the so-called “blooper” is actually on those who think it’s a blooper! The pictures I viewed showed power window switches (where Tiger’s paw Is in the episode), and the hand crank is for the smaller vent window. So, this is actually NOT a blooper after all! |
◊ 2020-11-06 01:36 |
Yes - I know someone who has a very similar full size 1968 Chrysler Corporation car. When the used power windows on the main windows, they were powered all the time - you could roll the windows down with the car not running. And - the vent window still had a crank! So that's what you're seeing here. |