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1919 Chandler Six Four Seater Chummy Roadster Class: Cars, Convertible — Model origin: 
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◊ 2006-06-20 00:23 |
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◊ 2006-06-20 00:40 |
Yvon craque  Epoque 1915 -- Last edit: 2006-06-20 01:46:40 |
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◊ 2006-06-20 00:51 |
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◊ 2006-06-20 13:40 |
There are several elements here pointing to a Chevrolet V8 model D " Chummy Roadster" of 1917-1918.It is a two-door four-passenger car.It has the very typical beltline with the belt behind the front seat cowl sloping downwards to the rear of the car ,rear seat passengers being seated lower than front seat passengers.The front cowl is quite large.The remains of the top bowls show a large top.Remains of the engine crankcase also point to the bi-block V8. These Chevrolets were powered by a V8 in two blocks with overhead valves feeded by two carburetors .But they were never popular and were discontinued in 1918 leaving Chevrolet with its successfull 4 Cylinder model 490. |
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◊ 2006-06-20 14:28 |
J'y ai pensé aussi à cause de la forme très base du moteur, mais le cadre de la vitre avant et le trou près du marche-pied ne correspondent pas. |
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◊ 2006-06-20 14:37 |
Je penche pour une Maxwell 1917, mais je ne trouve pas de photo de cette voiture. Je cherche. |
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◊ 2006-06-20 16:00 |
Sorry, it's not a Chevrolet, but it's very close Here the catalog of the 1918 V8 Chevrolet : page with the 4 pass roadster Link to "www.tocmp.com" from this site http://www.tocmp.com/brochures/Chev/1918/ -- Last edit: 2006-06-20 16:00:51 |
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◊ 2006-06-20 16:32 |
I very much doubt this would be a Maxwell.I cannot find a similar body on any of the Maxwells in my documents .The front windshield frame of the movie car closely ressembles that of the Chevrolet car on the catalogue. |
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◊ 2006-06-20 17:23 |
Pilou, you're right, it'could be a Chevrolet V8. But I try to find a picture. This kind of 4-seater roadster is not very commun. I have books with thoses pictures, but all are in my move. Do some-one has one of thoses books to look: - Floyd Clymer reedition of the 1916-1917-1918 US cars annuals - same reedited in the Dover serie - 75 Years of Chevrolet = Crestline edition En français: le problème: toutes les Chevrolet V8 phaeton que j'ai vu, le pare-brise est droit, et pas en oblique. Le galbe entre le pare-brise et la porte-avant n'est pas le même = mais c'est peut-être le dessinateur qui a amélioré. Exemple de deux qui ont survécu: http://www.mbautomuseum.com/Tour/Chevrolet%201918.htm http://www.forengines.com/demoa-3.jpg -- Last edit: 2006-06-20 17:32:13 |
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◊ 2006-08-02 16:52 |
I have had a further look at this mystery one .What it may be , taking into account Yvon 52's remarks is a Chandler Six four seater chummy roadster of ca 1919 : -these had a drainage hole in the side members of the frame near the rear fender above the running board -they had no fuel cap on the cowl as on the movie car , contrary to the Chevrolet as confirmed by the tocmp Chevrolet brochure -the windshield was more inclined inwards, but the document I have shows a one piece windshield whereas it is two piece here -doors were larger and squarer than on the Chevrolet -wheels were ten spokes -as on the Chevrolet ,the cowl from winshield to hood was straight but somewhat longer.Other chummy roadsters as the Jackson eight for example had sloping cowls .The hood of the Chandler was also much longer than that of the Chevrolet, but unfortunately this is not visible on the movie shots.It is also a pitty that there are no views of the hood louvres to confirm ( inclined on the Chevrolet , straight on the Chandler) -as on the Chevrolet ,there was a spare tire but no spare wheel These Chandlers used an own made 4736 cc bi-block six cylinder engine If anyone on this site would come across additional period pictures I would be interested. |
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◊ 2006-08-02 18:58 |
Here is an image of a 1916 Chandler Six. http://cleveland.about.com/od/clevelandattractions/ss/crawford_9.htm Not identical, but perhaps it helps. I will check the film again for any further visible bits. |
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◊ 2006-08-03 12:34 |
The one you are showing is a 1916 car with the open touring body of the Crawford Museum , not exactly the same body as the chummy roadster they made.The data I found refer to a somewhat more recent ca 1919 car, a drawing of which is reproduced in :Automobiles of the World by Albert L. Lewis and Walter A.Musciano , Simon and Schuster New York 1977 , ISBN 0-671-22485-9 on page 287. |
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◊ 2006-08-03 12:37 |
I haven't got the book, but I believe your expertise! .gif ":)") |
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