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antp ◊ 2006-12-24 16:35	Another one: 01:39:24
datsunZ ◊ 2006-12-25 12:49	Since 1991 with that body(shown at Geneva M.S. of that year)
benny ◊ 2006-12-27 12:32	Great collection of Mercedes in this movie... This is a 1994-98 S-Klasse W140.
antp ◊ 2006-12-27 12:49	It is not a newer model? As the grille is different from the other W140 I was thinking of another year, but then I guess it depends on the trim level or something like that?
benny ◊ 2006-12-27 12:53	Yes, it can be a post 1996 lifted model.
Russianmob ◊ 2007-01-02 15:12	benny wrote Great collection of Mercedes in this movie... This is a 1994-98 S-Klasse W140. The W140 was and is a very populair car in Russia.
G-MANN ◊ 2007-01-02 16:06	Especially with the Russian Mafia.
1996_S500 ◊ 2007-05-26 18:58	It is a 1991-1994. It cannot be a 1995-1998, because those were facelifted, and this one is not. It has the 1st generation headlights, front bumper, and grille
Ingo ◊ 2007-09-25 00:34	Ahem, how shall I say it? A lot of Mercedes in Russia had annother life before. Not all of them were sold by the former owners voluntarily.
G-MANN ◊ 2007-09-25 00:39	Why didn't you just say they were stolen? -- Last edit: 2007-09-25 00:39:21
Ingo ◊ 2007-09-25 00:50	I don't want to start a discussion, where I can catch the reproach to see it in a nationalistic way, or that I have prejudices. Yes, it is the truth, the majority of the cars, which were stolen in Germany, goes to Eastern Europe. I'm working in the claim department of an insurance-company, my wife, too. One time our boss asked around, if anyone of us is interested to buy a Mercedes S-class, which was found again in Bulgaria. Noone bought it, because it was armoured like a Government-car - and this armour-plating was mounted in Bulgaria.
Buc84 ◊ 2007-09-25 04:02	Ingo wrote Ahem, how shall I say it? A lot of Mercedes in Russia had annother life before. Not all of them were sold by the former owners voluntarily. "Be careful when you touch it,you might burn your hands?"
G-MANN ◊ 2007-09-25 14:24	How much would that Merc have cost? If I was there I would have jumped at the chance to buy an armour-plated S-Class!
Ingo ◊ 2007-09-25 21:01	@G-Mann: I haven't asked for it, sorry. But to buy an armoured car is not a good idea. In know a guy, how has a fully armoured Mercedes 450 SEL 6.9 in his collection. The driving with it makes no fun. It's heavy, slow, it's ugly to look through the windows, a lof of repairs at the axles and suspension are usual, and last but not least a set of tires costs over 2000 Euro. But sometimes you have the chance to buy an armoured car, look at www.vebeg.de This company, owned by the German government, sells a lot of stuff, which they don't need anymore. But the armoured car, which are offered there, have a big problem. When their condition is too bad for driving and the mileage is too high, police academies get them for safety- and anti-terrorism-trainings (GSG 9 and so on). And after that way of using the cars are totally gone. My brother-in-law is a police-officer, who works sometimes as an instructor for these trainings, and the told me to forget these armoured, former government-cars. When they are too broken for police-trainings, it's hopeless to restore them.
Alexander ◊ 2007-09-25 23:00	G-MANN wrote How much would that Merc have cost? If I was there I would have jumped at the chance to buy an armour-plated S-Class! Is that the same G-MANN that doesn't like SUVs? If you want one, have a look here: http://mobile.de/fahrzeugsuche/ Type 'gepanzert' or 'armoured' into the field Variante (or field Type if you switch to English). Hope your piggy-bank is well filled!
G-MANN ◊ 2007-09-25 23:36	There's only one G-MANN on this site! I mainly don't like them for aesthetic reasons, some of them are too big and nearly all of them are ugly (in my opinion). They don't get good fuel consumption, which isn't great, but then neither do many sports cars and luxury cars that I like, so that can't be the only reason I'm against them. The problem with SUVs is they've become too popular, people see them as an alternative to a normal car (a sedan or hatchback), whereas a fast car is still a luxury. It's OK for a Rolls-Royce to get 10-15 mpg because there won't be too many of them about, but when millions of people drive large SUVs that also get low mpg, that's a bit of a problem. I wouldn't go on about SUVs so much if there weren't so many around, but everyone has to admit that's just too many of them (especially in the USA). There's various other reasons why I don't agree with SUVs but I want to stay concise. Bottom line, I don't like 'em so I wouldn't have one myself. But I do like big Mercs, to me an S-Class is far more tasteful than a Porsche Cayenne or Escalade. I'll be honest here, there's no way I can afford an armour-plated Merc right now, and even if I could I certainly wouldn't use it everyday, it's just if I could have a collection, an armoured S-Class would make a nice addition (of course I don't need an armoured car, it would just be a novelty). If I had money, and someone asked if I was interested in that Merc, I think I would be. -- Last edit: 2007-09-25 23:38:27
G-MANN ◊ 2007-09-26 00:02	So do the governments of European countries like Germany keep a lot of armoured cars? In Britain only the very most senior politicians get armoured cars, the Prime Minister gets an armoured Jaguar XJ8, but most cabinet ministers ride around in ordinary cars like Omegas and Rovers. Members of the Royal Family also get armoured cars but only the most important ones that are high up on the "in-line-to-the-throne" list.
Ingo ◊ 2007-09-26 11:37	@G-Mann: the German government has some armoured cars, but not all minister's cars are armoured. You can order an armoured car also as a company or a private person, if you want (www.centigon.com), that's no problem. The first owner of the 450 SEL 6.9, I've talked about, was the owner of a big industrial company.
Ingo ◊ 2007-09-26 11:48	@Alexander: have you seen that? Link to "mobile.de" @G-Mann: something for you? Here you can see in the description, that it was a private car. The sentence "kein abgenutztes Behördenauto" means that it's not a car, I was talking about (first owner government, later used from other authorities, for sale after it's totally gone). Link to "mobile.de" -- Last edit: 2007-09-26 11:52:45
G-MANN ◊ 2007-09-26 18:30	Here's a Daily Mail article (if anyone's interested) about the official limousines of the current world leaders (although this was written 2 years ago, some of those leaders have been replaced): Link to "www.dailymail.co.uk" It says if you're the leader of a car producing nation, you must use one of your own cars, does this mean the Spanish President has to ride around in a crappy little Seat? -- Last edit: 2007-09-26 18:38:54
chris40 ◊ 2007-09-26 21:54	No, they'd rebadge a VW Phaeton. Or a Bentley -- Last edit: 2007-09-27 01:51:38 (G-MANN)
Ingo ◊ 2007-09-26 22:46	@G-Mann: in the last weeks there was an upset discussion in Germany, because a politician has ordered a Hybrid-Lexus. The Großherzog (Grand Ducal) from Luxemburg is a Range Rover-user since a long time. A friend in Luxemburg (by the way: a collector of VW K 70 and Range Rover) had fun about the respectable greetings of other Luxemburg citizens. For a while he drove a Range Rover in the exactly same colour and model-year as the Grand Ducal Anyways, I'm owning also a "king's" car,too! In a very short TV-scene a Swedish friend has seen, that in 1971 the Queen Margarethe from Denmark was driven by a chauffeur in a VW K 70. -- Last edit: 2007-09-26 22:47:35
Ingo ◊ 2007-09-26 22:58	P.S. In the K 70-collection of that guy you also can find a car, which was really to see in a movie. Does anybody know the British thriller about the IRA "Hidden Agenda" from 1990? In 1999 we went to England to buy that K 70 LS. -- Last edit: 2007-09-26 22:58:35
G-MANN ◊ 2007-09-27 01:57	I also read somewhere that the Ministerial fleet (the motor pool of cars that transport our government ministers to official events) now contains foreign cars like Nissan Primeras. It seems that ministers can't all have Jaguars (John "Two Jags" Prescott took a lot of flak), and Rover's gone down the pan, but I still think we should to our own (there's still Vauxhall, they don't make the Omega anymore but maybe the Vectra would do, and maybe we could use the Ford Mondeo a lot of people still think of it as a British car), or at least use something a little grander than the dull Primera. I bet in America politicians wouldn't dream of riding around in something that's not a Cadillac or Lincoln. -- Last edit: 2007-09-27 01:58:33
Ingo ◊ 2007-09-27 02:16	Was the Omega also made in England? I've heard, that all Omegas were built in Rüsselsheim. In Germany the Omega, also the other big Opels, had not enough prestige to get a use as a representative car for the government. One exception is the Bundeswehr. Before they started to use leasing-cars (nowadays you see very often Skoda Octavia's with army-plates) Opel Omega and Mercedes E-class were the top-size cars for Generals, Admirals and so on. More was not possible. My all-day-car is such an former Bundeswehr-Opel Omega (still in NATO-olive-green). I let the badge-stickers of the unit on the front and back - so that army-people can see, that it originally came from the General Stuff in Berlin. It was a surprise for me, that the Bundeswehr really had foreign cars in use, even in times, when they owned the cars (all in NATO-olive). Cars like Renault 5 Rapid and Seat Terra. -- Last edit: 2007-09-27 02:16:50
G-MANN ◊ 2007-09-27 02:39	The Omega is basically a German car, but it also wears the Vauxhall badge, which is still a British marque, so it's kind of ours as well. Most people still think of Vauxhalls as British cars, even if they're only rebadged Opels now. But a Nissan is not British at all. -- Last edit: 2007-09-27 02:40:17
G-MANN ◊ 2007-09-27 02:42	Ingo wrote In Germany the Omega, also the other big Opels, had not enough prestige to get a use as a representative car for the government. Gordon Brown chose to ride around in an Omega when he was Chancellor of the Exchequer (the second most senior political position in the UK), but then in Germany you've got Mercedes, BMW and Audi, all of which are superior to Opel. I wonder why they decided to use a VW Phaeton for the German Chancellor instead of a Mercedes S-Class (isn't that what they used to use?). -- Last edit: 2007-09-27 02:50:44
G-MANN ◊ 2007-09-27 14:41	Ingo, could I see some pictures of your ex-army Omega if possible? Would you mind posting them here?
Ingo ◊ 2007-09-27 14:54	@G-Mann, no problem, just send me a mail to Ingo.Menker@freenet.de. It's no problem for me, if you want to post them here. The choosing of the Phaeton by Chancellor Schröder has a reason. Before that job he was the ministerpresident of the country Niedersachsen (Lower Saxony). The Volkswagen AG is the most important company in that part of Germany with thousands of employees (and electors). Except the factory in Kassel all German VW-factories are located there. Also the government of Niedersachsen owns a lot f VW-stocks and has a blocking minority. Once Schröder has said "I'm the chancellor of all cars" On the other hand politicians from Bavaria always use BMW and Audi, because the companies are located there.
Ingo ◊ 2007-09-27 14:55	P.S. This blocking minority of the country Niedersachsen at Volkswagen actually makes a lot of trouble in Brussels. For the EU it's illegal.
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2007-09-27 15:21	Ingo, the German Land would be better translated as state than county.
G-MANN ◊ 2007-09-27 16:52	Hey Ingo, check your email, I've just sent you a message. Thanks!
Ingo ◊ 2007-09-27 17:09	I've done it. Pics are on the way.
Gamer ◊ 2016-02-25 18:14	1992 by plate.
Gamer ◊ 2017-03-10 18:50	300E per avtocod. But that would be a W124...
steeeel ◊ 2020-06-07 20:04	antp wrote Another one: 01:39:24 v12 badge so is 600
dhill_cb7 ◊ 2023-04-20 20:42	^^ badges are added quite often to the W140. We don’t normally trust if the V12 badge is present on the C-Pillar. We have countless examples of badges being swapped or added; especially in Russian flicks.
Gamer ◊ 2023-04-20 21:11	Still on its original plate after over 20 years! 300 SE 3.2 delivered December 14, 1992 to the Wuppertal branch in 'blauschwarz metallic' with black leather interior. Definitely 1993 MY I'd say. WDB1400321A119495

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