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DidierF ◊ 2015-03-31 15:45
mike962 ◊ 2015-03-31 16:06	JCB -- Last edit: 2015-03-31 16:07:23
jcb ◊ 2015-03-31 16:38	Zut alors ! Berliet maybe ? -- Last edit: 2015-03-31 16:39:26
mike962 ◊ 2015-03-31 16:42	JCB wrote Zut alors ! Berliet maybe ? if you want to go thru 50s dump trucks http://www.album-mmt.it/categories.php?cat_id=35
mike962 ◊ 2015-03-31 16:46	what about those fancy license plate checks ?
DidierF ◊ 2015-03-31 17:03	The plate, wouldn't it be fake, is a 1957 one. The only filming location given by IMDb is Shepperton Studios. And nothing 'French' in the movie couldn't be studio made. But indeed, this heavy truck looks genuinely French.
jcb ◊ 2015-03-31 17:25	It does look French , at first I thought Foden as Matchbox King size , but it has six wheels which rule that out. -- Last edit: 2015-03-31 17:44:08
DidierF ◊ 2015-04-01 15:25	Little oddity: proclaiming to be from "Cambrai, Nord", the truck is registred in the département de la Marne, "51" instead of "59". … And I still haven't found what it is.
jcb ◊ 2015-04-01 16:11	Neither have I and it's irritating me ! Thought I had a good handle on British market construction stuff from this era . Explored Willemes and Mack but no matches. -- Last edit: 2015-04-01 18:03:52
rattle on ◊ 2015-04-01 16:43	Not sure what it is but Oshkosh dump trucks around that time had that type of radiator guard with two headlights either side and the same type of bumper,what does not go all the way cross the front of the truck,but the front exhaust stack on top of the bonnet is very Euclid.
jcb ◊ 2015-04-01 18:03	Yes the tank behind cab is also Euclid like but wings and wheels aren't. Long running Mack LRSW also has some similarities. It's the nicely formed wings that don't match anything.
mike962 ◊ 2015-04-01 18:09	JCB wrote Yes the tank behind cab is also Euclid like but wings and wheels aren't. Long running Mack LRSW also has some similarities. It's the nicely formed wings that don't match anything. cabin and exaust do look a lot like Averling-Barford Link to "s1126.photobucket.com" even the engine side panels look like it so perhaps a customized Averling-Barford ?? -- Last edit: 2015-04-01 18:10:11
jcb ◊ 2015-04-02 09:13	Aveling Barford only made one six wheeler the 690 and this is not it . I wonder if its a Mack LRSW with new cab/wings etc , a lot were brought in during the war on lend lease from US . I can also see the Oshkosh similarities in lights and grille guard. Location may give us a clue because I bet it's from somewhere nearby. Bringing this any distance would be expensive and awkward back then. -- Last edit: 2015-04-02 09:33:26
mike962 ◊ 2015-04-02 15:32	JCB wrote Aveling Barford only made one six wheeler the 690 and this is not it . I wonder if its a Mack LRSW with new cab/wings etc , a lot were brought in during the war on lend lease from US . I can also see the Oshkosh similarities in lights and grille guard. Location may give us a clue because I bet it's from somewhere nearby. Bringing this any distance would be expensive and awkward back then. JCB watch the scene yourself, perhaps some vital clues visible !! http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2h79z0 it has 2 air filters on the right side -- Last edit: 2015-04-02 15:35:15
jcb ◊ 2015-04-02 16:16	Any idea what time it appears ? I had a quick look through before but could not spot it .
mike962 ◊ 2015-04-02 16:18	entry has time tag at 26 min -- Last edit: 2015-04-02 16:19:05
DidierF ◊ 2015-04-02 16:48	JCB wrote Any idea what time it appears ? I had a quick look through before but could not spot it . Ts-ts-ts, JCB… 'My' movies are always time-tagged. (The first thumbnail was taken at 00:26:01, the last at 00:26:16. In my film, but I don't know about the Dailymotion version.) -- Last edit: 2015-04-02 16:50:22
eLMeR ◊ 2015-04-03 22:29	Dailymotion versions are circa 00:26:04 and 00:26:19, with 00:26:06 for the main pic (hard to have a precise time code with the player of that site). Which means in direct link: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2h79z0?start=1550 (1) to see the whole sequence. _____ 1: where start = number of seconds since the beginning of the movie -- Last edit: 2015-04-03 22:31:48
jcb ◊ 2015-04-04 08:16	DidierF wrote Ts-ts-ts, JCB… 'My' movies are always time-tagged. (The first thumbnail was taken at 00:26:01, the last at 00:26:16. In my film, but I don't know about the Dailymotion version.) Learn something new every day
rattle on ◊ 2015-04-07 08:40	Now think this a Saviem built vehicle wheels,front wings etc,are the same has the Saviem MTPVR 6X4 model,only radiator guard is a different shape and no exhaust stack on bonnet so maybe a different model than the one quoted.
DidierF ◊ 2015-04-07 09:09	Saviem (ex-Somua) MTPV, there are many things of them, yes: Link to "www.autho87.fr" http://lesrenaultdepapier.fr/SaviemGammeChantier.htm The problem (for me) is the asymetric cabin.
jcb ◊ 2015-04-07 17:26	This truck shows elements of every truck mentioned so far but no definitive match , yet . It does have a French look to me but no French dump trucks on UK market in 1961 AFAIK.
DidierF ◊ 2015-04-07 17:48	JCB wrote This truck shows elements of every truck mentioned so far but no definitive match , yet . It does have a French look to me but no French dump trucks on UK market in 1961 AFAIK. I was ready to believe that a second crew crossed the channel for some extra shots —those seen from the train, for instance, and possibly this very sequence, where none of the cast are showing, except the Bedford itself, and a trailer. But actually, I don't know.
jcb ◊ 2015-04-07 23:43	mmm I am beginning to think this is a Berliet as first thought , the Dinky model GBO has a very similar body/front mudguards but different cab/bonnet , also this shape of front mudguard appears on many fifties Berliets. Edit - Saviem / Somua also possible as Rattle on says -- Last edit: 2015-04-08 12:02:57
DidierF ◊ 2015-04-08 19:12	I must buy a book about Berliet trucks and coaches, it's urgent. Besides, I'm ready to support "Berliet GBO" as answer for our bel inconnu.
jcb ◊ 2015-04-09 09:11	' handsome stranger ' ! I am wondering if this truck appears narrower than real life in the film due to ratios ?
DidierF ◊ 2015-04-09 09:20	The ratios are right —I checked, well… thoroughly because I don't like to post pics with wrong ratios. (I stumble on one of my old up-loads, Non coupable, and when I saw the Packard, I think that I messed it a bit). The deformations would be due to the lenses used, in our case 'elongation' from the center. And there is nothing of the kind obvious here —to my eyes. (Besides, it's a 6x6, not 6x4, right or wrong?) -- Last edit: 2015-04-09 09:21:01
jcb ◊ 2015-04-09 09:30	OK , some dump trucks were fairly narrow so they were legal for road travel. I think it is a 6x4 , axle ends curved to clear sump . -- Last edit: 2015-04-09 09:31:30
Sunbar ◊ 2015-04-09 18:38	DidierF and JCB have you seen the following picture during your searches? https://www.flickr.com/photos/28083135@N06/4799512893/ Having no experience of heavy dump trucks at all, for what its worth the cab to me looks to be the same as this derelict Averling Barford Dump Truck? -- Last edit: 2015-04-09 18:39:20
jcb ◊ 2015-04-12 13:42	Problem is it is a six wheeler, and with super single rear tyres , all AB trucks were 4x2 except the one inherited from AEC. Being a six wheeler cuts down the British possibilities greatly, -- Last edit: 2015-04-13 10:06:00
mike962 ◊ 2015-04-18 15:14	front bars looks like OSHKOCH. hmmm http://www.album-mmt.it/details.php?image_id=5784 -- Last edit: 2015-04-18 15:17:09
jcb ◊ 2018-09-29 10:58	Being reading a magazine article about a guy restoring a Somua MTP dump truck which rekindled interest in this mystery . Didier and Sunbar were well on the case . Nothing new revealed but it shares so many characteristics with the Saviem ( formerly Somua) MTPV I thnk it must be one of their products , maybe the offset cab was an option to the full width cab? -- Last edit: 2018-09-29 11:00:02

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