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1922 AEC S-Type

1922 AEC S-Type in London Off the Track, Short Movie, 1924 IMDB

Class: Bus, Double-deck — Model origin: UK

1922 AEC S-Type

Pos: 00:02:40 [*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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dsl SX

2016-01-26 23:23

[Image: 02-40bus.jpg] [Image: 02-40buscxm7390.jpg]

XM 7390 = Sept 1922 to Feb 1923

Bus on left ....
[Image: 02-42busxn8524.jpg]

.... is XN 8524 = Feb-May 1923. Same type or does it deserve a page??

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-01-27 09:08

Difficult.

S-type on right, I think. The bus on the left may be either S or NS, but you can't see to count the windows.

http://usuaris.tinet.org/klunn/pics/bus-k-and-s.jpg

XM is an S, XC is a K.

(Bl--dy Microsoft, this thing automatically capitalises the first w in windows.)

-- Last edit: 2016-01-27 09:13:01

Sunbar UK

2016-01-27 12:16

edit: missed the fact there are three buses here so got confused! ...

XM is an S-type.

-- Last edit: 2016-01-27 13:00:10

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-01-27 13:20

The problem is that "Ian's Bus Stop", the major resource for London buses starting at the LGOC "O" including bonnet and registration numbers, has been down for several days and I am unable to find any information on the registration number of NS1, which might allow things to become clear.

To make matters worse, Wiki's information on lists of AEC bus types indicates possible production overlap between K, S and NS types with dates seemingly showing two, or all three types in production concurrently. I find this difficult to accept.

-- Last edit: 2016-01-27 13:28:09

Sunbar UK

2016-01-27 14:02

XN 8524 is a K-type by its appearance.

As I see it - to clarify (I'm really confused now I think!)...

[Image: composite.jpg]


For information NS1 went into service in 1923 source: ltmcollection.org - cannot find its registration

"Ian's Bus Stop",

NS1

NS1 was produced in 1922. It had a detachable roof in order to test the waters with the Public Carriage Office. Most importantly in terms of bus design it had a cranked chassis that allowed the passenger saloon floor level to be substantially lower compared with its predecessor, the S class. Just a single step of 13in took passengers up onto the platform, compared with 3 steps and 25in for the S. It was this lowering of height that allowed the General to hope that a top cover would be permitted. But no, it was not to be. NS1 was withdrawn after approval was not received in early 1923, the chassis not reappearing until July under a standard body.

Into service

The NS was put into full service in May 1923, also XN7001 was a NS-type so I think an overlap in the first year in likely.

-- Last edit: 2016-01-27 14:20:49

Sunbar UK

2016-01-27 14:34

OK, this is my final stab, as I had to watch it on BFI player...

[Image: s-typeandunknown.jpg]

On the left XN 8524 = Feb-May 1923 is unknown to me, too many window sections for normal LGOC body (four sections plus a larger rear section?).

No GENERAL name on side so perhaps another bus company with different body?

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-01-27 20:12

So we can summarise, buses that look nearly the same but may not be, and taxis that look identical but aren't. Plus lorries that could have been buses at the weekend, and buses that could become lorries if the bodywork fell off. Not to mention steam waggons both undertype and overtype, and very, very few private cars.

Thanks!

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